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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #793931) Joi 29 Apr, 2010 12:15 pm
Asta arata a geometrie blocata undeva in dreptul pozitiei corespunzatoare 2700RPM. Nu faci numai fum in spate de pe la 3000RPM in sus? Cred ca se impune o curatare.
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #847869) Joi 08 Jul, 2010 12:38 am
Saptamana asta am schimbat galeria de admisie, si am pus OPCOM-ul:

852 RPM

Battery Voltage,13.2 V
Fuel Pump Relay,Active
APP at Idle Position (Accelerator Pedal Position),Active
APP Sensor 1 (Accelerator Pedal Position),0.96 V
APP Sensor 2 (Accelerator Pedal Position),0.47 V
Calculated Pedal Position,0 %
Desired Engine Idle Speed,850 RPM
Engine Speed,852 RPM
Camshaft Speed,425 RPM

1530 RPP

Battery Voltage,13.5 V
Fuel Pump Relay,Active
APP at Idle Position (Accelerator Pedal Position),Inactive
APP Sensor 1 (Accelerator Pedal Position),1.41 V
APP Sensor 2 (Accelerator Pedal Position),0.68 V
Calculated Pedal Position,12 %
Desired Engine Idle Speed,850 RPM
Engine Speed,1.530 RPM
Camshaft Speed,750 RPM
Idle Speed Modified,NO
Calculated Air Flow,72 kg/h
Mass Air Flow Sensor,72 kg/h
Charge Air Temperature,68 °C
Charge Air Temperature,1.39 V
Fuel Temperature,46 °C
Fuel Temperature,2.15 V
Barometric Pressure,100 kPa
Barometric Pressure,3.93 V
Boost Pressure Command,104 kPa
Boost Pressure,108 kPa
Boost Pressure,1.72 V
Pulse Ratio Boost Pressure Solenoid Valve,75 %
EGR Position Commanded (Exhaust Gas Recirculation),29 %
EGR Pulse Ratio (Exhaust Gas Recirculation),44 %
Swirl Level Control Solenoid Valve Pulse Ratio,78 %
Throttle Position PWM Servo Signal,0 %
Desired Common Rail Fuel Pressure,42.99 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure,42.85 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure,1.45 V
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve PWM,39 %
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve Current,0.91 a
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve PWM,41 %
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve Current,1.39 a
Glow Time Relay,Inactive 12V
Diagnosis Glow Time Relay,Inactive
Glow Time Telltale,Off 12V
Vehicle Speed,0 km/h

2068 RPM

Battery Voltage,13.5 V
Fuel Pump Relay,Active
APP at Idle Position (Accelerator Pedal Position),Inactive
APP Sensor 1 (Accelerator Pedal Position),1.70 V
APP Sensor 2 (Accelerator Pedal Position),0.84 V
Calculated Pedal Position,25 %
Desired Engine Idle Speed,850 RPM
Engine Speed,2.068 RPM
Camshaft Speed,1.025 RPM
Idle Speed Modified,NO
Calculated Air Flow,98 kg/h
Mass Air Flow Sensor,98 kg/h
Charge Air Temperature,69 °C
Charge Air Temperature,1.35 V
Fuel Temperature,47 °C
Fuel Temperature,2.13 V
Barometric Pressure,100 kPa
Barometric Pressure,3.93 V
Boost Pressure Command,104 kPa
Boost Pressure,118 kPa
Boost Pressure,1.87 V
Pulse Ratio Boost Pressure Solenoid Valve,71 %
EGR Position Commanded (Exhaust Gas Recirculation),25 %
EGR Pulse Ratio (Exhaust Gas Recirculation),47 %
Swirl Level Control Solenoid Valve Pulse Ratio,71 %
Throttle Position PWM Servo Signal,0 %
Desired Common Rail Fuel Pressure,61.71 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure,62.19 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure,1.86 V
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve PWM,44 %
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve Current,1.03 a
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve PWM,40 %
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve Current,1.34 a
Glow Time Relay,Inactive 12V
Diagnosis Glow Time Relay,Inactive
Glow Time Telltale,Off 12V
Vehicle Speed,0 km/h

2564 RPM

Battery Voltage,13.3 V
Fuel Pump Relay,Active
APP at Idle Position (Accelerator Pedal Position),Inactive
APP Sensor 1 (Accelerator Pedal Position),1.80 V
APP Sensor 2 (Accelerator Pedal Position),0.88 V
Calculated Pedal Position,30 %
Desired Engine Idle Speed,850 RPM
Engine Speed,2.564 RPM
Camshaft Speed,1.275 RPM
Idle Speed Modified,NO
Calculated Air Flow,157 kg/h
Mass Air Flow Sensor,157 kg/h
Charge Air Temperature,69 °C
Charge Air Temperature,1.35 V
Fuel Temperature,47 °C
Fuel Temperature,2.13 V
Barometric Pressure,100 kPa
Barometric Pressure,3.93 V
Boost Pressure Command,120 kPa
Boost Pressure,142 kPa
Boost Pressure,2.25 V
Pulse Ratio Boost Pressure Solenoid Valve,68 %
EGR Position Commanded (Exhaust Gas Recirculation),22 %
EGR Pulse Ratio (Exhaust Gas Recirculation),49 %
Swirl Level Control Solenoid Valve Pulse Ratio,45 %
Throttle Position PWM Servo Signal,0 %
Desired Common Rail Fuel Pressure,70.48 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure,70.10 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure,2.03 V
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve PWM,47 %
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve Current,1.09 a
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve PWM,40 %
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve Current,1.34 a
Glow Time Relay,Inactive 12V
Diagnosis Glow Time Relay,Inactive
Glow Time Telltale,Off 12V
Vehicle Speed,0 km/h

2638 RPM

Battery Voltage,13.3 V
Fuel Pump Relay,Active
APP at Idle Position (Accelerator Pedal Position),Inactive
APP Sensor 1 (Accelerator Pedal Position),1.78 V
APP Sensor 2 (Accelerator Pedal Position),0.88 V
Calculated Pedal Position,29 %
Desired Engine Idle Speed,850 RPM
Engine Speed,2.638 RPM
Camshaft Speed,1.300 RPM
Idle Speed Modified,NO
Calculated Air Flow,166 kg/h
Mass Air Flow Sensor,166 kg/h
Charge Air Temperature,68 °C
Charge Air Temperature,1.39 V
Fuel Temperature,53 °C
Fuel Temperature,1.89 V
Barometric Pressure,100 kPa
Barometric Pressure,3.93 V
Boost Pressure Command,120 kPa
Boost Pressure,132 kPa
Boost Pressure,2.09 V
Pulse Ratio Boost Pressure Solenoid Valve,67 %
EGR Position Commanded (Exhaust Gas Recirculation),31 %
EGR Pulse Ratio (Exhaust Gas Recirculation),43 %
Swirl Level Control Solenoid Valve Pulse Ratio,43 %
Throttle Position PWM Servo Signal,0 %
Desired Common Rail Fuel Pressure,65.32 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure,65.49 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure,1.93 V
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve PWM,45 %
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve Current,1.05 a
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve PWM,41 %
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve Current,1.34 a
Glow Time Relay,Inactive 12V
Diagnosis Glow Time Relay,Inactive
Glow Time Telltale,Off 12V
Vehicle Speed,0 km/h


3054 RPM

Idle Speed Modified,NO
Calculated Air Flow,50 kg/h
Mass Air Flow Sensor,50 kg/h
Charge Air Temperature,64 °C
Charge Air Temperature,1.50 V
Fuel Temperature,46 °C
Fuel Temperature,2.17 V
Barometric Pressure,100 kPa
Barometric Pressure,3.93 V
Boost Pressure Command,104 kPa
Boost Pressure,102 kPa
Boost Pressure,1.64 V
Pulse Ratio Boost Pressure Solenoid Valve,75 %
EGR Position Commanded (Exhaust Gas Recirculation),100 %
EGR Pulse Ratio (Exhaust Gas Recirculation),4 %
Swirl Level Control Solenoid Valve Pulse Ratio,79 %
Throttle Position PWM Servo Signal,0 %
Desired Common Rail Fuel Pressure,30.00 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure,30.54 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure,1.17 V
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve PWM,36 %
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve Current,0.81 a
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve PWM,43 %
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve Current,1.39 a
Glow Time Relay,Inactive 12V
Diagnosis Glow Time Relay,Inactive
Glow Time Telltale,Off 12V
Vehicle Speed,0 km/h

3554 RPM


Battery Voltage,13.3 V
Fuel Pump Relay,Active
APP at Idle Position (Accelerator Pedal Position),Inactive
APP Sensor 1 (Accelerator Pedal Position),2.19 V
APP Sensor 2 (Accelerator Pedal Position),1.07 V
Calculated Pedal Position,47 %
Desired Engine Idle Speed,850 RPM
Engine Speed,3.554 RPM
Camshaft Speed,1.750 RPM
Idle Speed Modified,NO
Calculated Air Flow,346 kg/h
Mass Air Flow Sensor,347 kg/h
Charge Air Temperature,67 °C
Charge Air Temperature,1.41 V
Fuel Temperature,47 °C
Fuel Temperature,2.11 V
Barometric Pressure,100 kPa
Barometric Pressure,3.93 V
Boost Pressure Command,144 kPa
Boost Pressure,193 kPa
Boost Pressure,3.03 V
Pulse Ratio Boost Pressure Solenoid Valve,57 %
EGR Position Commanded (Exhaust Gas Recirculation),100 %
EGR Pulse Ratio (Exhaust Gas Recirculation),4 %
Swirl Level Control Solenoid Valve Pulse Ratio,5 %
Throttle Position PWM Servo Signal,0 %
Desired Common Rail Fuel Pressure,78.39 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure,78.45 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure,2.23 V
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve PWM,48 %
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve Current,1.12 a
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve PWM,40 %
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve Current,1.31 a
Glow Time Relay,Inactive 12V
Diagnosis Glow Time Relay,Inactive
Glow Time Telltale,Off 12V
Vehicle Speed,0 km/h

4137 RPM

Battery Voltage,13.4 V
Fuel Pump Relay,Active
APP at Idle Position (Accelerator Pedal Position),Inactive
APP Sensor 1 (Accelerator Pedal Position),2.25 V
APP Sensor 2 (Accelerator Pedal Position),1.11 V
Calculated Pedal Position,50 %
Desired Engine Idle Speed,850 RPM
Engine Speed,4.137 RPM
Camshaft Speed,2.050 RPM
Idle Speed Modified,NO
Calculated Air Flow,345 kg/h
Mass Air Flow Sensor,345 kg/h
Charge Air Temperature,69 °C
Charge Air Temperature,1.37 V
Fuel Temperature,48 °C
Fuel Temperature,2.09 V
Barometric Pressure,100 kPa
Barometric Pressure,3.93 V
Boost Pressure Command,152 kPa
Boost Pressure,164 kPa
Boost Pressure,2.58 V
Pulse Ratio Boost Pressure Solenoid Valve,58 %
EGR Position Commanded (Exhaust Gas Recirculation),100 %
EGR Pulse Ratio (Exhaust Gas Recirculation),4 %
Swirl Level Control Solenoid Valve Pulse Ratio,5 %
Throttle Position PWM Servo Signal,0 %
Desired Common Rail Fuel Pressure,75.41 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure,76.48 MPa
Common Rail Fuel Pressure,2.19 V
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve PWM,47 %
Rail Pressure Control Solenoid Valve Current,1.09 a
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve PWM,40 %
Fuel Metering Solenoid Valve Current,1.33 a
Glow Time Relay,Inactive 12V
Diagnosis Glow Time Relay,Inactive
Glow Time Telltale,Off 12V
Vehicle Speed,0 km/h


EGR-ul l-am curata.
Senzorul de pe galerie arata cam rau... dar era curat (l-am curatat cu vaul de la cutter. Daca am atins chestia aia din interior posibil sa-l fi stricat ?)
Clapeta de acc. am curatat-o

Nici la mine nu cred ca sunt prea buni parametrii.
Partea buna este ca nu-mi da eroare.
Ce sa-i mai fac......
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #847992) Joi 08 Jul, 2010 9:46 am
BUCIFER 85 NU MAI STA PE GANDURI DA TURBINA JOS SI DU-O LA O CURATARE
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #847998) Joi 08 Jul, 2010 9:50 am
fratila a scris:BUCIFER 85 NU MAI STA PE GANDURI DA TURBINA JOS SI DU-O LA O CURATARE


Cred ca este destul de complicat de dat jos...
Din ce am vazut eu trebui sa dau radiatoarele jos. Nu o pot curata eu in fata blocului ? Smile
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #848008) Joi 08 Jul, 2010 9:55 am
Ce nu-i bine? ai boost pressure putin mai mare. MAF-ul la relanti nu-l vad, dar banuiesc ca e ce ai trecut la 3054 RPM...~50kg/h
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #848011) Joi 08 Jul, 2010 9:57 am
NU LA UN SERVICE O DAI JOS SI CURATATUL NU COSTA MAI MULT DE 250 RON CA SA NU-TI MAI RAMANA BLOCATA
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #848020) Joi 08 Jul, 2010 10:00 am
tonytm a scris:Ce nu-i bine? ai boost pressure putin mai mare. MAF-ul la relanti nu-l vad, dar banuiesc ca e ce ai trecut la 3054 RPM...~50kg/h


Am 49kg/h la relantiu.
Eu nu mai nteleg nimic.... Turbina ramane blocata ?
Eu o aud suierand de la 1700-1800 rpm.

Nu este electrovalva de pe radiator ?
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #848025) Joi 08 Jul, 2010 10:04 am
Maf-ul e perfect,
Daca ti-ar ramane blocata turbina ai avea eroare. Eu zic ca nu se merita sa cureti turbina pentru atat....
Mai bine, cauta o electrovalva care stii ca merge bine si vezi ce valori ai cu ea. Dar fa treaba in mers.
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #848039) Joi 08 Jul, 2010 10:14 am
daca vreti electrovalova noua, o gasiti AICI
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #848064) Joi 08 Jul, 2010 10:57 am
#bucifer85, fiindca ai tot schimbat pe cauciucuri iti recomand sa programezi corect in ECU valoarea pneurilor tale. S-ar putea sa ai o surpriza ...placuta daca valorile nu sunt cele corecte Wink

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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #860225) Dum 25 Jul, 2010 8:34 pm
Salut,
ma poate lamuri cineva ce este cu aceste erori ? OP-COM - KW2000 Communication Window> 2004|Meriva|Engine|Z 17 DTH
Multumesc anticipat !

P0105 - Boost Pressure Sensor Circuit Range/Performance
(0A) - Present

P0093 - Rail Pressure Range/Performance
(00) - Not present

P0105 - Boost Pressure Sensor Circuit Low Input
(02) - Not present
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #1063851) Dum 20 Mar, 2011 4:37 pm
Salut,
Merge sa iau electrovalva de pe un Z19DT pentru proba pe un Z19DTH?
Este normal sa se incalzeasca aceasta electrovalva? dupa 15 minute nici nu poti sa tii mana pe ea, si nu se incalzeste din cauza motorului...
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #1247526) Mie 07 Dec, 2011 12:35 am
Salutare, am o problema pe z19dth, cand pornesc masina cam 2 km nu face deloc boost iar dupa ce trece de aceea perioada face overboost, in loc de 1.6 sare spre 2 bar ! (motorul ii remapat), ce ar putea cauza aceste simptome ?

CristianTm: Ai rezolvat ceva curatand maf senzorul ? eu am 80000 km si nu am desfacut inca acel senzor !
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #1250845) Dum 11 Dec, 2011 10:15 pm
S-a rezolvat, Egr ul era varza Smile
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #1306419) Mie 29 Feb, 2012 2:37 pm
salutare tuturor!
am o problema cu o astra h motor.z19dth,
pe la 2000rpm suiera ca naiba,daca scot furtunul de vacum de pe turbo,nu mai suera.
ma gandeam la electrovalva care comanda variabilul.
vreo sugestie?cum se verifica acea electrovalva?
sau daca este vreun coleg prin timisoara sau prin zona,care are una de proba,sa nu ma apuc sa cumpar si sa nu fie aceea
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #1306471) Mie 29 Feb, 2012 3:48 pm
Cauta-l pe cristiantm pentru diagnoza. Cred ca-ti suiera de la uzura mecanica a palelor de pe evacuare, sau geometrie indoita.
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #1306558) Mie 29 Feb, 2012 5:40 pm
tonytm
nu cred ca e de la pale ,faza e ca urmatoarea,geometria lucreaza dar ramane trasa la maxim cand e cuplat furtunul de vacum,indiferent de turatie ,cand scot furtunul revine pe minim,ma gandeam ca nu lucra electrovalva acea,lui cristiantm nu pot sai trimit PM,vad ca imi da eroare,ai tu ceva date de contact?daca da ,te rog trimite si mie
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #1306746) Mie 29 Feb, 2012 9:08 pm
am uitat sa precizez ca am anulat(blindat) EGR-ul
dadea eroare PO4OO dar nu era blocat din supapa ci din partea electrica.
am reusit sa decapsez si sa curat partea electrica ,acum functioneaza ok, nu mai da eroare,dar am zis ca preventiv sa-l blindez
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #1308278) Vin 02 Mar, 2012 9:10 pm
am rezolvat!
sueratul era din cauza optrari(blindari) EGR.
am scos tabla , si merge de rupe.
sa vedem cat tine reconditionarea facuta la selenoid-ul EGR
multe multumirii
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Z19DTH: Problema Boost Pressure (Post #1308631) Sam 03 Mar, 2012 10:07 am
multumesc user-ului "tonytm"
pentru ajutor

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