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  • dancuciureanu

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Rampa de injectoare a fost data jos sau ai spalat asa ?
Cod de filtru K&N am sa va dau cand ajunga acasa, acum sunt in concediu dar atentie ca e cam fenomenal de sculp dupa parerea mea.
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  • keopsss

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Rampa am lasat-o pe admisie am spalat cu foarte mare grija. De ce m-ati intrebat?
Multumesc mult astept mesajul dumneavoastra, apropo kit-ul de la cei de la eds este complet ce ar mai trebui sa iau?
Kit GM contine:
-Lant distributie
- pinoane axe came
-pinion vilbrochen
- patina tensionare
-patina ghidaj
- patina glisare
- intinzator
- prezoane.
  • dancuciureanu

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crezi ca nu este scris ?
  • augustusion

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Salut! Am o problema la z10xe 2003 pe corsa cu trepidatii la accelerari usoare si nu ii dau de cap, am curatat clapeta, admisie, egr, debitmetru curat, nu are erori, am scos mufa de la sonda lambda, acceasi problema, tremuratul se manifesta ca aici :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdJD0LATbQY
  • ney

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Salut!
Astazi am curatat cele doua furtunuri ce ies din capac motor si pe cel mic l-am dat jos
L-am scos din spatele galeriei de admisie si de unde l-am scos am bagat mica surubelnita sa vad daca e gaura si nu e!
Ce rost are acest furtun daca nu duce nicaeri?
Acolo e si o supapa, sau o electrosupapa care are o teava d plastic care merge la un moment dat paralela cu cea de tur de benzina! Cei cu ea ?
  • ney

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  • augustusion

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ney, posibil sa ai galeria de admisie murdara si de asta nu intra surubelnita pe acea gaura, nu era furtun acolo degeaba. Pe interiorul galeriei se depunde un strat dur, gros si unsuros de la uleiul ars ce vine pe acele furtune ce recupereaza din capac culbutori. Trebuie demontata galeria si curatata strasnic, gasesti tutorial pe forum pentru asta.
  • dancuciureanu

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Corect, are gaura dar e de 1mm diametru si valva aia e de purjare vapori, la primele C cu motoare XE este pe filtrul de aer, la XEP este pe admisie.
  • ney

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Multumesc pt raspunsuri!
O sa bag astazi ceva subtire( o sarma)
Electrovalva descarca vapori de benzina in rezervor ?sau invers
Masina are 115mii si merge f bine ,consuma 6 incarcata la drum, cu ulei gm 5w30 la 7-8000,benzina 95 efix rompetrol, bujii cu un electrod din manual
Trebuie sa o turez mai tare cand vreau sa ma duc la viteza mai repede, dar nu todeauna
Clapeta curatata, baie si sorb,semering vibrochen tija clapete unsa (fara joc) si asta e!
  • catastefan

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Electrovalva baga vaporii de benzina din rezervor in admisie.
  • ney

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Este gaurica de 1 mm
Deci gaze din rezervor ! Merci!
  • ney

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Am uitat!
6 %, nu mai mult de 110 /3000 ture
  • augustusion

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GM 5w30 nu e chiar o solutie, de la el e acel strat gros de mazga de pe admisie. Incearca un 5W40 de la Mobil1 sau alta marca mai cunoscuta
  • ney

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Chiar nu stiu ce ulei sa pun
Mizerie nu prea am gasit in admisie si nici nu consuma ulei
  • boditza

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Salutare,
Am si o problema cu Corsa(Z12XE) sotiei si anume se aprinde check-ul si eroarea este: "p0130 o2 sensor circuit malfunction (bank 1 sensor 1)". Ce mi se pare ciudat este ca se aprinde strict la drum lung, in oras merg sute de km si nu se aprinde insa cum ies in afara orasului dupa 20-30km la 100km/h se aprinde si nu se mai stinge decat din tester. Din ce am gasit pe forum problema nu ar fi sonda lambda ci debitmetrul.
Daca aveti vreo idee ce as putea sa verific, eventual valori ce pot fi citite cu opcomul.

P.S. Masina merge bine, trage bine, consumul e cam de 9-10 in oras dar nu o am de mult timp si nu stiu daca este normal sau nu
  • dancuciureanu

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Curata mufa mai intai, multi o au naclaita in ulei.
  • boditza

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Am curatat mufa de la sonda lambda, desi era curata, dat cu spray de contacte si pus la loc. Pe langa asta am curatat si EGR, schimbat garniturile dar nu pot folosi masina ca am planetarele date jos sa schimb burdufele si cele comandate nu erau bune. Revin saptamana viitoare cu informatii.
Multumesc pentru sfaturi.
  • boditza

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Revin cu un update:
Dupa ~300km la un drum lung a aparut iar "Check Engine" cu erorile astea:

Total number of fault codes: 4
P0130 - O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction (Bank 1 Sensor 1)
(09) - Present
P0130 - O2 Sensor Circuit Low Voltage (Bank 1 Sensor 1)
(04) - Not present
P0130 - O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction (Bank 1 Sensor 1)
(0Cool - Not present
P0170 - Fuel Trim Malfunction (Bank 1)
(09) - Not present

Astea sunt valorile la relanti de la diferiti senzori:
Battery Voltage 13.9 V
Main Relay Active
Fuel Pump Relay Active
APP Sensor 1 (Accelerator Pedal Position) 0.98 V
APP Sensor 2 (Accelerator Pedal Position) 0.49 V
Calculated Pedal Position 0%
APP at Idle Position (Accelerator Pedal Position) Active
TP Sensor 1 (Throttle Position) 0.76 V
TP Sensor 2 (Throttle Position) 4.25 V
Calculated Throttle Position 6%
Throttle Position Idle
Engine Speed 809 RPM
Mass Air Flow Sensor 1.59 V
Mass Air Flow Sensor 9.21 kg/h
Coolant Temperature 1.78 V
Coolant Temperature 63 °C
Intake Air Temperature 2.53 V
Intake Air Temperature 44 °C
Tank Sensor 2.65 V
Tank Sensor 16 L
Oil Pressure Normal
A/C Information Switch (Air Conditioning) Active
A/C Pressure (Air Conditioning) 2.82 V
A/C Pressure (Air Conditioning) 1.980 kPa
Brake Switch 1 Inactive
Brake Switch 2 Inactive
Vehicle Speed 0 km/h
Cruise Control Tip Switch Not Programmed
Cruise Control Not Programmed
Vehicle Speed in Cruise Control Range Not Programmed
EGR Valve (Exhaust-Gas Recirculation) Inactive
EGR Position Command (Exhaust- Gas Recirculation) 0%
EGR Position Feedback (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) 0.82 V
Fuel Tank Ventilation Valve 16%
Knock Control Inactive
B1S1 O2 Sensor Heater (Bank 1 Sensor 1) Inactive
B1S1 O2 Sensor (Bank 1 Sensor 1) 745 mV
B1S1 Air/Fuel Ratio (Bank 1 Sensor 1) Lean
B1S2 O2 Sensor Heater (Bank 1 Sensor 2) Inactive
B1S2 O2 Sensor (Bank 1 Sensor 2) 451 mV
B1S2 Air/Fuel Ratio (Bank 1 Sensor 2) Lean
O2 Sensor Loop Closed
B1 Long Term Fuel Trim (Bank 1) 3%
B1 Short Term Fuel Trim (Bank 1) 3%
A/C Relay (Air Conditioning) Inactive
A/C Cutoff Mode (Air Conditioning) System OK
Malfunction Indicator (MI) On
Service Vehicle Soon (SVS) Indicator Off
Engine Speed 809 RPM
Desired Idle Speed 800 RPM
Idle Speed Offset Inactive
Vehicle Acceleration 0.0 m/s2
Ignition Dwell Angle 1.9 ms
Injector Time 6.0 ms
Ignition Spark Angle 2 °CA
B1 Knock Sensor Signal (Bank 1) 0.00 mV
Relative Engine Load 9%
Normal Engine Operating Temperature Active
ETC Limp Home Mode (Electronic Throttle Control) Inactive
Electronic Throttle Control Learn Counter 0
Fuel Tank Ventilation Valve Active
Fan Relay 1 Inactive
Fan Relay 2 Active
Fan Relay 3 Inactive
Immobiliser Function Programmed Yes
Security Wait Time Inactive
BCM: Vehicle-ID is programmed (Body Control Module) Yes
Instrument: Vehicle-ID is programmed Yes
BCM: Status of Vehicle-ID (Body Control Module) Okay
Instrument: Status of Vehicle-ID Okay

Daca are cineva vreo idee e binevenita Smile. Eu suspectez debitmetrul si prima sonda lambda
  • catastefan

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La relanti debitmetrul arata valoarea corecta , Temperatura aerului in admisie la fel este corecta. Debitmetrul pare bun. Urmareste-l si in sarcina.
Aerisirea rezervorului de benzina functioneaza.
O problema este timpul de injectie mare. 6ms. Valoarea normala este 2,7-3,7ms. ECU tine injectorul deschis mai mult ca sa imbogateasca amestecul. In valorile de aici ambele sonde sunt pe Lean. Neconcludent . Trebuie urmarite intr-o inregistrare de parametri in mers.( valorile oferite si daca incalzirea sondei isi face treaba)
Deasemeni urmarite in inregistrare Long Term Fuel Trim si Short Term Fuel Trim. Aici se incadreaza in limita de plus /minus 5% dar e tot neconcludent.
Daca faci inregistrare de parametri rezulta un fisier cu extensia .csv pe are il poti converti in xlsx pe www.zamzar.com
  • boditza

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Multumesc Cata pentru raspuns. In mers nu am log, dar o sa fac. Ceea ce am acum este un log la ~3500rpm dar pe loc si nu stiu daca este relevant:
Battery Voltage 13.9 V
Main Relay Active
Fuel Pump Relay Active
APP Sensor 1 (Accelerator Pedal Position) 1.65 V
APP Sensor 2 (Accelerator Pedal Position) 0.80 V
Calculated Pedal Position 23%
APP at Idle Position (Accelerator Pedal Position) Inactive
TP Sensor 1 (Throttle Position) 1.14 V
TP Sensor 2 (Throttle Position) 3.88 V
Calculated Throttle Position 16%
Throttle Position Partial Load
Engine Speed 3.614 RPM
Mass Air Flow Sensor 2.67 V
Mass Air Flow Sensor 36.84 kg/h
Coolant Temperature 1.69 V
Coolant Temperature 66 °C
Intake Air Temperature 2.55 V
Intake Air Temperature 44 °C
Tank Sensor 2.63 V
Tank Sensor 16 L
Oil Pressure Normal
A/C Information Switch (Air Conditioning) Active
A/C Pressure (Air Conditioning) 3.47 V
A/C Pressure (Air Conditioning) 2.440 kPa
Brake Switch 1 Inactive
Brake Switch 2 Inactive
Vehicle Speed 0 km/h
Cruise Control Tip Switch Not Programmed
Cruise Control Not Programmed
Vehicle Speed in Cruise Control Range Not Programmed
EGR Valve (Exhaust-Gas Recirculation) Active
EGR Position Command (Exhaust- Gas Recirculation) 35%
EGR Position Feedback (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) 1.29 V
Fuel Tank Ventilation Valve 100%
Knock Control Inactive
B1S1 O2 Sensor Heater (Bank 1 Sensor 1) Active
B1S1 O2 Sensor (Bank 1 Sensor 1) 137 mV
B1S1 Air/Fuel Ratio (Bank 1 Sensor 1) Lean
B1S2 O2 Sensor Heater (Bank 1 Sensor 2) Inactive
B1S2 O2 Sensor (Bank 1 Sensor 2) 451 mV
B1S2 Air/Fuel Ratio (Bank 1 Sensor 2) Lean
O2 Sensor Loop Closed
B1 Long Term Fuel Trim (Bank 1) 3%
B1 Short Term Fuel Trim (Bank 1) 5%
A/C Relay (Air Conditioning) Inactive
A/C Cutoff Mode (Air Conditioning) System OK
Malfunction Indicator (MI) On
Service Vehicle Soon (SVS) Indicator Off
Engine Speed 3.614 RPM
Desired Idle Speed 800 RPM
Idle Speed Offset Inactive
Vehicle Acceleration 0.0 m/s2
Ignition Dwell Angle 1.8 ms
Injector Time 4.6 ms
Ignition Spark Angle 37 °CA
B1 Knock Sensor Signal (Bank 1) 0.04 mV
Relative Engine Load 7%
Normal Engine Operating Temperature Active
ETC Limp Home Mode (Electronic Throttle Control) Inactive
Electronic Throttle Control Learn Counter 0
Fuel Tank Ventilation Valve Active
Fan Relay 1 Active
Fan Relay 2 Active
Fan Relay 3 Active
Immobiliser Function Programmed Yes
Security Wait Time Inactive
BCM: Vehicle-ID is programmed (Body Control Module) Yes
Instrument: Vehicle-ID is programmed Yes
BCM: Status of Vehicle-ID (Body Control Module) Okay
Instrument: Status of Vehicle-ID Okay
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