Uleiuri - de care folosim, de ce

Am observat si eu asta. Omul are o problema si inca una mare. I-am spus ceea ce am avut de spus. Daca nu ii place nici motul nici liqui moly poate ii place uleiul Koufland sau cine stie poate are bunica un soi mai bun de ulei

Jgyprime.
Nici pe mine nu ma intereseaza compozitia uleiurilor, dar nici sa vina unul sa spuna ca cutare ulei contine esteri , lucru nespecificat pe eticheta sau in fisa tehnica.
Ca sunt altii care accepta e problema lor, eu prefer sa incerc cate un ulei decat sa ma las poate pacalit.
Pe un astfel de topic trebuie sa se discute de toate marcile de ulei si nu numai de motul, mobil sau gmdexos2.
Multi nu suporta castrolul si nu ma impiedicat nimic sa-l folosesc, macar din curiozitate.
Bafta.

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8100 X-cess 5W-40
Gasoline and Diesel engine oil
100% Synthetic
TYPE OF USE
High performance 100% Synthetic
lubricant specifically designed for powerful and recent cars fitted with
large displacement engines, Gasoline and Diesel, turbocharged or naturally aspirated, direct or
indirect injection.
Multipurpose product featuring numerous car make
r approvals, especially recommended for vehicles
still under warranty.
Suitable for all type of fuels: leaded or unleaded Gasoline, ethanol, LPG and Diesel.
Compatible for catalytic converters.
PERFORMANCES
STANDARDS ACEA A3 /
B4
API SERVICES
SN
/ CF
APPROVALS BMW
LL-01
MB-Approval
229.5
MB-Approval
226.5
Porsche
A40
Renault
RN0700
under N° RN0700-10-70
Renault
RN0710
under N° RN0710-10-43
VW 502 00 – 505 00
PERFORMANCES GM-Opel LL B-025 (Diesel)
FIAT 9.55535-H2, FIAT 9.55535-M2, FIAT 9.55535-N2
The ACEA B4 performance requires an outstanding detergent/dispersant power and a better viscosity
increase resistance due to soot produced by Direct Injection Diesel engines (except VW unit injector
engines that require a VW 505 01 product such as MOTUL Specific 505 01 502 00 5W-40 or 8100 X-
clean 5W-40).
The BMW Long Life-01 specification imposes severe constraints to the lubricant particularly due to the
Valvetronic system. It covers all BMW engines
from 2001 to 2004 and also all the previous BMW
specifications such as BMW LL-98. From 2004 BM
W vehicles require a BMW LL-04 product such as
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BMW LL-01 standard covers also all Gasoline engines running only outside European Union
countries, Switzerland, Norway and Liechtenstein. Refer to BMW recommendations when in doubt.
GM-OPEL Diesel LL B-025
standard requires two main properties from the lubricant: high HTHS and
very low volatility to drastically decrease oil
consumption. MOTUL 8100 X-cess 5W-40 is especially
recommended for OPEL Diesel engines such as the 2.0L and 2.2L DTI engines (extended drain
interval : on-board computer).
The MERCEDES MB 229.5 standard is more stringent than 229.3 in terms of ageing and oil film
resistance (extended drain interval: on-board computer), detergent/dispersant power (ACEA B4) and
requests fuel economy performance: 1.7% fuel ec
onomy improvement versus a 15W-40 reference.
The specification MB 229.5 applies to all MERCEDES Gasoline engines, including AMG (in 5W-40
viscosity grade) except SLR, and to all MERCEDES Diesel without DPF engines.
The specification MB 226.5 is similar to 229.5 and applies to MERCEDES Gasoline engines sourced
from the MERCEDES/RENAULT-NISSAN partnership.
The Porsche A40 standard requires extreme high shear resistance from the lubricant. This
specification applies to all PORSCHE engines, except Cayenne V6 and Diesel versions (for these
specific engines, use an approved Porsche C30 lubricant such as MOTUL 8100 X-clean+ 5W-30).
RENAULT has developed RN0700 and RN0710 standards for oils able to endure the most severe
thermal constrains along with modern after treatment systems compatibility.
The Renault RN0700 standard applies to all Naturally Aspirated Gasoline engines (except Renault
Sport) of RENAULT Group (Renault, Dacia, Samsung).
The RN0700 specification applies also to all RENAULT Diesel cars fitted with 1.5L dCi engines without
DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) having less than 100 hp output and 20 000 km or 1 year oil drain
interval.
The Renault RN0710 standard applies to all turbocharged Gasoline, Renault Sport and Diesel without
DPF engines of RENAULT Group (Renault, Dacia, Samsung).
The RN0710 specification does not apply to RENAULT Diesel cars fitted with 1.5L dCi engines without
DPF having less than 100 hp output and 20 000 km or 1 year
oil drain interval which specifically require
a RN0700 lubricant. For the 2.2L dCi with DPF, use only an approved RN0710 lubricant, not a
RN0720.
The FIAT 9.55535-H2, M2 and N2 performance levels impose the engine oil to combine both ACEA
A3/B4 standard and 5W-40 viscosity grade in order to perfectly lubricate most of the Gasoline and
Diesel engines of FIAT, ALFA-ROMEO, and LANCIA produced before July 2007.
RECOMMENDATION
Drain interval: refer to manufacturers’ recommendations and tune to your own use.
MOTUL 8100 X-cess 5W-40 can be mixed with synthetic or mineral oils.
Before use always refer to the owner manual or handbook of the vehicle.
PROPERTIES
Viscosity grade SAE J 300
5W-40
Density at 20°C (68°F) ASTM D1298 0.850
Viscosity at 40°C (104°F) ASTM D445 86.2 mm²/s
Viscosity at 100°C (212°F) ASTM D445 14.2 mm²/s
HTHS viscosity at 150°C (302°F) ASTM D4741 3.7 mPa.s
Viscosity Index ASTM D2270 170
Pour point ASTM D97 -36°C / -32.8°F
Flash point ASTM D92 230°C / 446°F
Sulfated ash ASTM D874 1.1% weight
TBN ASTM D2896 10.1 mg KOH/g

intre timp astia au schimbat formula api SN, si l-au facut mai vascos fericire maxima pentru cei cu motoare diesel tehnologie mai veche.

Foarte dubios postul asta, oare cine o fi acest user? o sa ramana un topic plin de bebei care stiu multe si clone.
Macar eu sunt doar unul singur.
Bafta baieti.

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Cam trasa de par ideea aia cu amestecul de motoare (de la non-euro la euro 4). De 1.7 sau 1.5 neaparat
Iar ridicam in slavi uleiurile de buldozere cu TBN 20 si cenusa cat incape. Zgomotul atenuat de un ulei ingrosat s-ar putea sa coste scump mai tarziu, o sa reziste uleiul si o sa 'crape' motorul La motoarele Euro 4 ma refer. Si la pornirea la rece, bineinteles.

Un DPF in plus sau o supraalimentare la CDTI nu schimba prea mult 'vechiul' motor.. Uleiurile c3 'moderne' merg de minune la acest Isuzu.
Iar motorul asta de generatie veche se produce si acum, cu mici modificari,
O sa fii surprins probabil sa afli ca 'vechiul' Isuzu 1.7 cdti pare mai sportiv decat un diesel 1.6 euro 6 cu AT, cat e el de bi-turbo. Iar 'batranul' 1.6 dci (de 130 cp ce-i drept) depaseste net mult prea modernul euro 6 amintit mai sus.

'Modernizarea' motoarelor actuale vizeaza in primul rand scaderea noxelor si a consumului de carburant prin modificari la sistemul EGR si la sistemul de incalzire al motorului.

multumesc frumos pentru raspuns.
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Adica un sfat uman legat de uleiuri si nu citate fara sfarsit...

Revin cu impresii despre valvoline synpower 5w40,varianta pt Europa de vest( cel pt est nu are aprobare pt bmw , a luat un prieten si a zis ca al lui nu are,intocmai ca pe site-ul valvoline daca selectam lb romana) . Am 3000 km cu el , e la nivel , n-a scazut pe joja desi vede des 4000 rpm ,motorul (Z16SE) toarce frumos.

Prietene, daca as sta sa ma cert cu de-al de tine as face posturi la greu. Prefer sa privesc si atat pentru ca orice ar fi tu tot asa ramai deci imi irosesc minute bune din viata cu tine. Prefer putin si bun decat mult si prost. Parerea mea despre tine e comuna aici asa ca fa un bine si apuca-te de altceva mai usor. Chestia asta cu uleiurile te depaseste grav si te faci de ras.