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  • AugeK

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Was just a suggestion by me.
On my Y17DTi the Tempomat LED is on if ignition is on but motor not running (looks like light test).
That's why I think you should give it a try with power on ECU.
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  • m1sh

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you should have said this earlier Very Happy

LE: i didn't have to much time then, i i've decided not to test te pins that were declared as being ground.
it took me 2-3 hours to test those pins Very Happy maybe today i'll test the "ground" pins. i will report the progres if it will be any Smile


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  • AugeK

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Shame on me...
I am sorry but I thought you would test it with power on.
I NEVER had the idea to test it with a multimeter so I never thought about this.
  • iso

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In this case strange working logic that ECU have ... my jedi friend Wink
Maybe the first pin's to test is the "ground" one's... Rolling Eyes in strange way's the Force is working... Laughing
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  • AugeK

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May the power be with you!
  • m1sh

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LDivora a scris:Nu exista aceasta posibilitate. Se va face un circuit de test ca in figura urmatoare (numarul pinilor din poza este ales la intamplare, nu este real):

Se va urmari care din LED-uri se va aprinde. In momentul aprinderii LED-ului inseamna ca la pinul xx a aparut masa, ceea ce ne si interesa. In acest moment dispunem de numarul pinului din cupla (xx) care poate comanda aprinderea LED-ului in bord.


i've created this device in order for the test to be more easy to do. until nou i've used only 1 led with a 1 k resistor.



and i also figured it out that i've had false reading. none of my pins reached the ecu pins until now.
i'll do it again. maybe today, maybe another day.
  • AugeK

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This arrangement looks good to me. On my car I did it with only one LED so it took a while Wink
You setup looks more "professional!
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i'm done testing.
none of my pins are for the cruise control light.

i've tested :
63 ; 60 ; 59 ; 58 ; 56 ; 51
48 ; 42 ; 40 ; 38 ; 34
30 ; 28 ; 27 ; 26 ; 25 ; 22 ; 21 ; 18 ; 17
14 ; 12 ; 10 ; 9 ; 8 ; 6 ; 1

49 ; 43 ; 39 ; 31 ; 24 ; 11 ; 4 ; 3 are not free at my car, so iso, start with these ones.

the underlined pins were ground pins without and with ignition on.

pin 30 is ground pin with ignition off, and ground dissapears when i turn on the ignition.

BUT, non of the other pins where changing status when activating cruise control. not even pin 30.

Some, i've double checked.


My conclusions:
1. there is a small posibility that on the right pin made no contact, so false reading.. but this is a very very small probability.
2. there isn't any pin in this ecu ( Z16XE ) for cruise control, or it is in another set of wires (another coupling)
3. oneof the pins that aren't free for me, but free for iso's ecu is in charge with cruise control light. who knows? maybe my car is special and already has the wire somewhere in dash. Very Happy

LE: i've even re-checked my testing device right now, and it's working perfect.


daca are cineva nevoie de traducere in romana, sa spuna
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  • B74LEL

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Salut ,

Eu as fi interesat de traducerea in romana daca se poate pe scurt . Am inteles ceva dar nu stiu daca e corect .

Multumesc.
  • m1sh

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am testat mai toti pin-ii liberi, si pe aia care sunt de masa din "standard" .. si niciunul dintre ei nu este pentru cruise control.
doar pin-ul 30 apare ca fiind de masa cu contactul scos, iar cand pun contactul dispare masa de pe el. dar nu se schimba cand activez cruise-ul.

am recomandat lui iso sa verifice pin-ii care sunt liberi la el si ocupati la mine, ca poate am eu firul tras (putin probabi.. da' na). daca te intereseaza care ar fi aia: 49 ; 43 ; 39 ; 31 ; 24 ; 11 ; 4 ; 3. 49 cica ar da masa (zice iso ca l-a verificat cu un aparat de masura).

LE: pentru putin


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Salut ,

Multumesc .Eram departe de ce trebuia sa inteleg .
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nu prea am avut timp sa citesc tot cu atentie, dar daca tot n-ati descoperit pinul intreb si eu daca nu merita verificata schema lui Laurentiu cu polaritatea ledurilor inversata si legatura la masa in loc de +...
slabe sanse daca exista borduri cablate din fabrica pe logica punerii la masa a ledului, dar daca nu-s cablate poate exista o sansa.
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  • LDivora

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De ce sa inversezi polaritatea? LED-urile din ceasuri au anodul comun la +. Deci ca sa aprind un LED trebuie sa dau masa pe terminalul din cupla ceasurilor.
  • ron

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ok, daca ledurile din ceasuri sunt cablate cu anodul comun. dar din cate intelesesem ledul de care discutam nu e cablat deloc.
  • LDivora

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@ron: Te rog sa citesti primele pagini si vei vedea pe scheme (chiar daca sunt aberatii de inceput) figurat LED-ul care trebuie montat. Ideea este de a-l monta asa cum l-a gandit neamtul, fara modificari.
  • AugeK

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Hi folks.

Good news from the german astra4ever.net:
Sooo,

an alle mit Z18XE:

Fallt auf die Knie und...
Der Pin für die Tempomat-LED am Motorsteuergerät ist Pin 3 vom Karosseriekabelbaumstecker.
Habs letzte Woche mal rausgemessen bzw. durch ausprobieren rausgekriegt.

Viele Grüße

Tobias


On Z18XE it is Pin 3 from the ECU on the connector going to the interior.

Have Fun
  • LDivora

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Good news! Thanks AugeK. You are the best!
  • AugeK

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Thanks, but I was just lucky finding the post.
Contributions belong to Tobias.

Maybe it also works on Z16XE even when the pin is not empty?
  • m1sh

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yes. maybe, but nobody seems to give a sh*t..
i'll try to do this test when i'll have some time.
i had this in mind.
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If you, who HAVE the ECU and WANT the functionality, don't try, who else would? People, don't wait somebody to jump around just because you wish!
To make the long story short: no sh*t!

BTW, Z16XE/SE is Multec, Z18XE is Siemens. Hardly any chance to have the same pin...
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