Cum poate fi semnalizat - tempomat activ pe Astra G ?

Salut ,

Pt. @m1sh. Imi trebuie anul masinii .Am sa pun 2003.Se pare ca la benzina cruise control e separat de ECU . Asa am citit si inteles .

Multumesc.

Domnilor, am deschis acest subiect, pentru a vedea cum poate fi semnalizat tempomatul activ. Fara suparare, dar voi sterge tot ce nu e la subiect.

Salut ,

pentru @Augek :Din TIS reiese ca pinul 20 poate sa fie pt. Z17DTL. Pentru DTI , nu stiu . Trebuie cautat :An masina , tip motor , cutie automata sau nu . Si eventual seria masinii am vazut ca cere .
Rog un coleg sa traduca in engleza .

Multumesc .

Thanks a lot.

I've got TIS as well, but for some reason I didn't find the Pin for Z17DTL, Sorry.

Still I was hoping somebody found the correct Pin for other engines.

Poate nu inteleg eu bine.
Cruise Control presupune 3 pini pe care se leaga maneta la ECU. Apoi daca exista pin pentru semnalizare tempomat activ, inseamna al patrulea. Ori din ce ai aratat tu acolo (numerotare pini in mufe) nu reiese asa.

AugeK , you will find the translation on the bottom of my post




Ceea ce scriu acum este valabil pentru z16xe , motorul meu.

Astazi am avut putina vreme si m-am bagat si eu la ecu. am folosit un cablu de telefon, tip utp dar cu 9 fire, plus inca un firicel, asta pentru ca aveam 10 pini de pc pe care i-am scos dintr-un pc mai vechi

spre deosebire de iso, la mine urmatorii pini erau ocupati:
49
43; 39
31; 24
11; 4; 3 (m-am uitat acum in TIS si am vazut ca pinii 11 si 31 sunt pentru transmisie automata.. nuj ce treaba au sa fie legati la mine. de ceilalti nu am gasit nimic)

NU am incercat pinii pe care iso i-a declarat nuli, drept urmare mi-au mai ramas 18 de incercat.
NU am gasit niciun pin ca fiind responsabil pentru aprinderea martorului (evident, altcineva la volan, tempomatul activ, si eu cu matele in dreapta).
NU neg sa fi fost vreun pin care sa fi avut contact imperfect, cu toate ca cineva mai sus spunea ca nu este posibil.

Acum nu stiu ce sa spun, ori nu apare in ECU, ori o fi vreunul din cei care la mine erau ocupati.
ISO, iti recomand daca te apuci de verificat sa incepi cu aia.




Translation for AugeK :

the user iso, found in his ecu this pins free:
63 ; 60 ; 59 ; 58 ; 56 ; 51 ; 49.
48 ; 43 ; 42 ; 40 ; 39 ; 38 ; 34
31 ; 30 ; 28 ; 27 ; 26 ; 25 ; 24 ; 22 ; 21 ; 18 ; 17
14 ; 12 ; 11 ; 10 ; 9 ; 8 ; 6 ; 4 ; 3 ; 1

he also said that those: 58 ; 56 ; 49 ; 42 ; 38 ; 34 ; 18 ; 17 ; 9 ; 1 are ground.

today i had some time and i've tested my ecu.
i found that this pins:
49
43; 39
31; 24
11; 4; 3
were not free at my car. so, i didn't test those. olso, i didn't test the pins that iso said that are ground.
(i've looked now on TIS and i found that pin 11 and 31 is used for automatic transmition. i don't have any idea why they are use one my car)

so, i've tested:
63 ; 60 ; 59 ; 51
48 ; 40
30 ; 28 ; 27 ; 26 ; 25 ; 22 ; 21
14 ; 12 ; 10 ; 8 ; 6.
but none of those above, gave me ground when i've activated the cruise control.
i've used some pc connectors, without the plastic protection, for the connection with the ecu, but i do not say for sure that they where the best choice (someone said that they are, and that it worked for him).

my conclusion: maybe the pin is one from those that were not free on my car, but were free in Isos car.

@m1sh: Thx for the translation!
I do assume the pins used in your car can NOT be for the LED.
If they are designated from TIS they can not be the correct one!

If you like you could test the pins beeing free in iso's car but I am not really confident.
I think it would be worth testing the pins said to be ground (doublecheck) while the engine is runing.
With the engine off the pins might be in a test mode like the light test on the dashboard.

If the result is negative maybe we have to accept that on some ECU a pin is available while on others no pin exists.

On z16xe Delco ECU i test those pin's one by one with multimeter, both socket are unpluged and batery whos disconected .
Maybe it must take pin's one by one or small groups for better acuracy.

You don't understand, i search with multimeter for ground pin's.

@ ISO: I do understand!
The problem is that usually FET(Transistors) are in use. They may be conductive with no control voltage. So measuring with a mutlimeter but without supply voltage may give some reading but quite likely NOT the correct result.