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In urmatoarea perioada voi pleca in Germania(Mannheim). Am un vectra b motor z18xe cu instalatie de gaz cu butelie toroidala(in locul rotii de rezerva), capacitatea de umplere a buteliei este de aprox. 35 litri si am un consum de aprox. 10,5%( nu stiu daca nu este un pic cam mare). Avand in vedere ca la un plin de gaz parcurg circa 330-350 km, probabil pe autostrada consumul va fi mai mic, am nevoie de cel putin 4 plinuri de gaz. Va rog daca cunoasteti traseul sa-mi spuneti cateva statii GPL de unde asi putea alimenta. De asemenea m-ar interesa daca se potrivesc gurile de alimentare( am citit pe forum ca cele din Germania ar fi diferite). Statiile gpl au ceva adaptoare pentru alimentare sau ar trebui sa-mi procur eu un astfel de adaptor( stiti daca exista in Bihor o firma care are asa ceva)?


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  • Gutenberg

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Harta cu statiile GPL din Germania
Pentru tranzitul prin Germania (landul Bayern si Badden-Wurttemberg), da clic si vei avea lista detaliata a locatiilor.
Pentru Austria, vezi daca informatiile de aici iti sunt de folos, iar pentru Ungaria, asta si asta.
In rest, se mai pot gasi pe net informatii referitoare la adaptoare sau GPL-ul din tarile de tranzit. Cu putina rabdare si ceva timp pentru a cauta datele necesare, o sa gasesti tot ceea ce te intereseaza.
Daca stiu si alti colegi mai multe informatii... Eu cu atat te-am putut ajuta. Drumuri bune sa ai Smile
  • pirvu_daniel

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Statiile GPL au adaptoare pentru tipul nostru de instalatii. In Austria sunt mai rare. Alimentezi la iesirea din tara apoi la iesirea din Ungaria. Consumul tau mi se pare cam mare. Nu ar trebui sa iti consume 6-7% pe extraurban. Acum depinde si cum mergi. Sper sa te ajute si asta.
AUSTRIA
There are at least 14 filling stations – see http://www.oeamtc.at/index....mp;menu_active=27

What is the name of LPG? LPG, autogas or Flüssiggas. (This is an educated guess!)
Price per litre: ?
Fitting: TYPE 2

*BELGIUM
LPG is widely available. Shell alone has over 650 stations!

What is the name of LPG? LPG
Price per litre: ?
Fitting: TYPE 3


!BOSNIA AND HERCOGOVINA
During a short visit to SW Bosnia, no LPG was seen. Mecattini lists two filling stations only. Anyone with more info?

What is the name of LPG? ?
Price per litre: ?
Fitting: TYPE ?

*BULGARIA
Wide availability at fuel stations and other outlets. Mecattini (see below) lists nearly 40 filling points.

What is the name of LPG? ?
Price per litre: around 0.75 lev (= €0.4)
Fitting: TYPE ?

!CROATIA
ADAC lists only 25 stations, and only 2 in the capital Zagreb. From limited personal experience, finding it in the north east of the country may be difficult, but it is available at outlets down the coast. Some fuel stations sell LPG, but they seem to be out-numbered by specialist outlets: watch out for signs directing you to an off-the-road outlet.

What is the name of LPG? LPG, GPL, Auto Plin
Price per litre: around 3 kunas (= <€0.30)
Fitting: TYPE 3

!CYPRUS
LPG is not available.

*CZECH REPUBLIC
LPG can be found at many fuel stations and other outlets.

For a list of filling stations, try www.lpg.cz.

What is the name of LPG? LPG or autogas or autoplyn
Price per litre: 10 to 11 kc (= >€0.30)
Fitting: TYPE 2

DENMARK
“Only a few cars in Denmark use LPG. Furthermore it is not legal to mount LPG tanks on motorcaravans. It is, therefore, only possible to buy LPG at very few Statoil and Q8 filling stations”, says a correspondent, but the German auto club ADAC lists 50 stations, 35 of which are Statoil, and Mecattini confirms there are plenty of places to fill up.

What is the name of LPG? ?
Price per litre: ?
Fitting: TYPE ?

For more information on the whole of Scandinavia, the first place to look is the excellent
http://www.gassmagasinet.no..._skandinavia.html

You can also try http://www.q8.dk/q8/frames.html and http://www.statoildetailhandel.dk/FrontServlet

*EIRE (IRELAND)
A good network of over 200 filling points, almost all fuel stations. For a list, navigate from http://www.lpga.co.uk/island_stations2.htm

What is the name of LPG? LPG, Autogas, Motorgas
Price per litre: €0.70
Fitting: TYPE 3

*ESTONIA
Available at many fuel stations and specialist outlets.

See also http://www.q8.dk/q8/frames.html and http://www.statoildetailhandel.dk/FrontServlet

What is the name of LPG? Gas or gaas
Price per litre: about 6.75EEK
Fitting: TYPE ?

!FINLAND
“LPG is not available in Finland” (UK Caravan Club). Confirmed – LB.

*FRANCE
LPG widely available. Totalgaz produce an excellent list of fuel stations (“Guides des stations”). Their website (www.totalgaz.com) is also first class. I believe other providers publish similar booklets. For a full list of LPG stations, try http://stations.gpl.online.fr

What is the name of LPG? GPL
Price per litre: about €0.50
Fitting: TYPE 2

GERMANY
LPG is available at more than 450 outlets, but these are not on every corner nor very obvious, perhaps because normal fuel stations are not the suppliers. Also, LPG outlets are more common in the former East than in the former West Germany, and are uncommon in the northerly quarter and the southerly third of the country.

You are therefore advised to obtain a list of suppliers. You may be able to get one from an ADAC office in Germany (I did). On the internet, try the very good http://www.autogas-forum.de/links/links-e.htm#7 or www.gas-tankstellen.de (in English - http://www.gas-tankstellen.info/en/). There is also a search engine for LPG stations at http://www.dvfg.de/autogas/tanken/tanken.html

What is the name of LPG? LPG, autogas or Flüssiggas
Price per litre: about €0.50 per litre
Fitting: TYPE 3

!GREECE
From personal experience, LPG is very difficult to obtain, except in the largest cities. ADAC lists only 30 stations – Mecattini lists a few more, but over 60% of these are in Athens.

What is the name of LPG? ?
Price per litre: ?
Fitting: TYPE 2

*HUNGARY
LPG is very easy to find at fuel stations and specialist outlets.

The central gas stations’ company, GLOBIMPEX Kereskedelmi és Szolgáltató Kft is reported to sell a map and a complete list of suppliers. Their address is: Globimpex, H-1136 Budapest, Tátra u. 28. V. 3. Phone: ++(36-1) 350 3561, fax: ++(36-1) 320 9628.

What is the name of LPG? LP gáz or autógáz
Price per litre: about €0.55
Fitting: TYPE 2

!ICELAND
LPG is not available.

*IRELAND (see EIRE)

*ITALY
LPG widely available.

What is the name of LPG? GPL, Auto Gas
Price per litre: about >€0.5
Fitting: TYPE 2

LATVIA
LPG available at some fuel stations and specialist outlets.

See also http://www.q8.dk/q8/frames.html and http://www.statoildetailhandel.dk/FrontServlet

What is the name of LPG? ?
Price per litre: 0.215 lats.
Fitting: TYPE ?

*LITHUANIA
Widely available from fuel stations and specialist outlets. Look for sign of half-full, leaning cylinder. Good list of stations at http://www.susk-dujos.lt/

See also http://www.q8.dk/q8/frames.html and http://www.statoildetailhandel.dk/FrontServlet

What is the name of LPG? Dujoz
Price per litre: 1.16 lts (but I’m advised that “the cheapest gas is found a few kilometers off the main roads.And allways ask for discount when you are refueling full tank”).
Fitting: TYPE 2 but Dutch adapters available

LUXEMBOURG
At least 5 stations in this very small country - and in 20 minutes you can get to one of three or four neighbouring countries with lots of gas!

What is the name of LPG? GPL
Price per litre: ?
Fitting: TYPE 3, (1)

MONTENEGRO
Mecattini lists only two stations – but this is a small country.

MOROCCO
“If you stay in Morocco for two months you'll need to fill or replace your gas bottles. We knew before leaving about two or three factories where we could do this, at Meknes, Marrakesh and the camping site at Agadir. But we also spotted one factory at the northern entry to Er Rachidia and we used two more 30km north of Casablanca. Ask at any fuel station selling gas where the nearest factory is and you'll be able to obtain some within the vicinity of several towns. All kinds of bottles are filled in one of two ways: either through a compatible connection, in which case you get the bottle back full with a sealed stopper (for 65 dirhams last spring), or through a non-compatible connection, in which case they'll weigh the bottle even if it isn't completely empty, give you some gas but not fill it and weigh it again so they can charge you by the weight (5 dirhams per kilo). As they can't ensure perfect filling, in this way they avoid overfilling and making the bottle dangerous. Bottles of Camping Gaz to be used for emergencies or outside and other gas barbecues are filled in the same way.”
Paul Gouwy (from Silk Route Motorcaravan Club Bulletin, Oct/Nov 2002)

*NETHERLANDS
LPG is widely available.

What is the name of LPG? LPG
Price per litre: ?
Fitting: ?

NORWAY
There are 49 LPG units operating at Norwegian fuel stations in all major population centres as far north as Tromso. For details, see www.LPGguiden.no. For more information on the whole of Scandinavia, the first place to look is the excellent
http://www.gassmagasinet.no...skandinavia.html. You can also try http://www.q8.dk/q8/frames.html and http://www.statoildetailhandel.dk/FrontServlet

A list is also available from NAF (Norwegian automobile club). The same list is re-printed in “Norway:The Official Travel Guide” (free from Norwegian Tourist Offices).

What is the name of LPG? ?
Price per litre: ?
Fitting: TYPE ?

*POLAND
LPG widely available - from 800 fuel stations and other outlets. Try http://www.pzm.pl/ for more info.

What is the name of LPG? LPG
Price per litre: about 1.30 PLN but can be as low as 1.10 (especially NE Poland).
Fitting: TYPE 2

PORTUGAL
ADAC states there are 80 stations, almost all BP/Mobil and Shell.

What is the name of LPG? Gáz líquido
Price per litre: ?
Fitting: TYPE 2

ROMANIA
Available but not at fuel stations. European nozzles used.

What is the name of LPG? GPL
Price per litre: 9950 lei per litre (=€0.34)
Fitting: TYPE ?

*SAN MARINO
Remarkably, this tiny state has 5 filling stations. The highest concentration of any country in the world?

SERBIA
Mecattini lists 8 stations in major cities.

What is the name of LPG? ?
Price per litre: ?
Fitting: TYPE ?

SLOVAKIA
LPG is not generally available at fuel stations. This may make it difficult to find, but there are nearly 30 filling points throughout the country. See http://www.lpg.cz/cerpacky/...pa_slovenska.htm:
includes an excellent map. A more recent website tip is http://www.lpg.cz/cerpaci_s...nam_slovensko.php

What is the name of LPG? LPG, autoplyn
Price per litre: ?15 Slovak koruna
Fitting: TYPE ?

!SLOVENIA
Not available at fuel stations. ADAC lists only 7 stations for the whole of the country.

What is the name of LPG? Plin
Price per litre: ?
Fitting: TYPE 2

SPAIN
Five or six years ago, there were only a handful of LPG stations in Spain – and they ONLY served public service vehicles eg taxis. But today, things do seem to have changed. One website reports “In Spain, LPG was first supplied for vehicles in 1986, with two filling stations. At the present time there are almost 50 supply points nation-wide…” but it then goes on to say there are “12,000 vehicles running on LPG, all taxis”.

But can private vehicles fill with LPG? Not according to the Real Automovil Club de Espana quoted by the Caravan Club in a paper dated September 2003. LPG is reserved for buses and taxis. Yet a correspondent (February 2004) tells me confidently “The law in Spain has changed and LPG is now available to all - not just PSV's” and another (early 2005) that “from 1-1-03 in Spain you can fill private cars in Spain and the special taxes have been reduced from this date from €793/1,000kgs to €125 for private cars, remaining €59 for public vehicles ( taxis, buses and public fleets)”.

For more info, try the Repsol site with its very good map: http://www.repsolypf.com/en...876&Nivel=11. You can download a list of their stations from: http://www.repsolypf.com/co...sautos__51091.pdf

What is the name of LPG? Gasauto
Price per litre: €0.51
Fitting: TYPE 1 (but non-standard 60mm), (2)

!SWITZERLAND
Filling stations are not common. ADAC lists 9. Try cpg@tcs.ch for a list.

What is the name of LPG? ?
Price per litre: ?
Fitting: TYPE 3,(2)

SWEDEN
Most major cities have a station selling LPG, but they are not numerous.

For more information on the whole of Scandinavia, the first place to look is the excellent
http://www.gassmagasinet.no..._skandinavia.html

You can also try http://www.q8.dk/q8/frames.html and http://www.statoildetailhandel.dk/FrontServlet

What is the name of LPG? ?
Price per litre: approx SEK 4.83
Fitting: TYPE 2

*TURKEY
Perhaps the LPG capital of the world. Very easy to obtain.

What is the name of LPG? Otogaz
Price per litre: about 750,000TL per litre (=£0.37).
Fitting: TYPE ?

*UK
LPG is widely available in the UK at fuel stations. The gas supplied is often a mixture of butane and propane and the mixture varies with the time of year. (The largest LPG supplier in the UK (Calor) says its Autogas is commercial propane, supplied to British Standard 4250). For a list of suppliers of LPG see www.lpga.co.uk

What is the name of LPG? Autogas
Price per litre: £0.39 (=€0.56) or a few pennies less
Fitting: TYPE 1,(3)
  • Cristi_C

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@pirvule nu stiu de unde ai scos lista aia, dar in Bosnia este gaz aproape la fiecare benzinarie, Serbia la fel, Slovacia la fel, Muntenegru la fel.. etc. Deci lista aia e varza.
On Topic:
Gaz la unguri mai greu, mai ales pe autostrada, in Austria si mai greu, dar pe autostrada gasesti de regula la AGIP, in Germanie e plin de gaz si era anul trecut 0.65 eurocenti cand la noi era gazu 1.9 lei. In austria era 0,89 centi. La unguri nu era deloc, eu nu am vazut pe autostrada. Cum intri in szeged cam cu al doilea sat inainte este o statie de gaz pe stanga si este cu 20% mai scump ca la noi, eu nu am alimentat niciodata de acolo.
Cat despre consum, si eu am un z18xe pe gaz si cand merg cu 170 la ora imi ia 11. Asa la 120-130 la ora pe autostrada imi consuma 8.5%.
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  • pirvu_daniel

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Cristi, ce era scris acolo e mai vechi. Chiar am vrut sa spun asta dar am uitat. Eu le-am pus decat pentru linkuri care mai sunt de actualitate.
Ti-am urcat aici POI-urile GPL din Ungaria.
  • CapellaCt

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laita a scris: De asemenea m-ar interesa daca se potrivesc gurile de alimentare( am citit pe forum ca cele din Germania ar fi diferite). Statiile gpl au ceva adaptoare pentru alimentare sau ar trebui sa-mi procur eu un astfel de adaptor?




Trebuie sa ai tu adaptorul potrivit.

Ti-am pus in chenar cele mai utilizate modele(ma refer la partea de jos,unde vine pistolul).
Pretul este intre 50-70 centi,pe autostrada putin mai scump.
Pe traseul Passau-Mannheim ai lista de BENZINARII .
Daca vrei sa descarci date pentru navi,liste si alte informatii gasesti AICI
Sper sa-ti fie de folos.
  • laita

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Multumesc pentru raspunsuri. Sunt mai mult decat clare si de folos. Din pacate calatoria spre Germania am fost nevoit sa o aman. I-mi cer scuze ca nu am intrat demult pe forum pentru a multumi celor care au raspuns solicitarii mele, dar am avut in ultimele 2 saptamani necazuri mari in familie ( tata a facut o comotie cerebrala in urma careia a si decedat). Legat de consum pe gaz consumul dat de mine (aprox 10,5%) este un consum mediu pe drumurile din Bihor care cred ca sunt cele mai proaste din tara si prin Oradea aprox 60/40 %.
  • CapellaCt

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Pentru putin @laita,speram sa-ti fie de folos cand faci calatoria.
Condoleante!
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[quote="CapellaCt"]
laita a scris:


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Cine ma poate ajuta cu adaptatorul din mijloc de sus.. cel cu 2 tevuste iesite din el.
Multumesc
Cam peste tot la toate statiile. inclusiv cele private mici doar cu gpl se gasesc adaptatoare. Eu am adaptatorul dar e putin mai lung si nu pot inchide usita( ca sa nu mai fie nevoie sa il scot tot timpul). La o benzinarie mi a dat fix adaptorul din poza si usita se inchidea perfect.( deci exista)Very Happy Multumesc
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@kapp pe ebay am gasit acum,insa nu scrie dimensiunile.Au acolo numar de telefon,le poti cere dimensiunile adaptorului:
http://cgi.ebay.de/LPG-Gas-...sh=item1c1c44aa9c

Ai intrebat la firmele care monteaza instalatii LPG si nu te-au putut ajuta,nu se poate comanda la ei?
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buna, eu am gasit GPL de la Arad (verbita, calea Aurel Vlaicu 282)
Nadlac-est (H&R),
Mako-est la AGIP
la iesirea spre Kiskunfelegyhaza parca era, (autoband M5)
Pe M1 este la AGIP si La MOL dar nu la toate statiile de pe M1
la wiena-west zona aeroport (schwadorf bei wien, 2432, industrie strase 1, L-J 9:00-16.30 V 10:00-12.30 S-Du inchis
La Wels-Nord B.P eferdinger strase 81
Passau-ost ,germania , chiar in orasel,
la kirkhroth 94356 intre regensburg si degendorf
peste tot aveau adaptoare (trebuia sa ceri la caserie) mie imi trebuia adaptor de 10mm


Ultima modificare facuta de todor_cornea28 la Mar 06 Mar, 2012 10:49 pm
  • pirvu_daniel

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todor_cornea28, tu de cati litri ai butelia de ai alimentat atat de des? Very Happy
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a mea este de 39 litri in locul rotii de rezerva, dar dupa ce bag mai mult de 20 L, nu stiu de ce dar imi pusca, nu ma mai lasa sa umplu, si nu mai am autonomie deloc,
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laita a scris:In urmatoarea perioada voi pleca in Germania(Mannheim). Am un vectra b motor z18xe cu instalatie de gaz cu butelie toroidala(in locul rotii de rezerva), capacitatea de umplere a buteliei este de aprox. 35 litri si am un consum de aprox. 10,5%( nu stiu daca nu este un pic cam mare). Avand in vedere ca la un plin de gaz parcurg circa 330-350 km, probabil pe autostrada consumul va fi mai mic, am nevoie de cel putin 4 plinuri de gaz. Va rog daca cunoasteti traseul sa-mi spuneti cateva statii GPL de unde asi putea alimenta. De asemenea m-ar interesa daca se potrivesc gurile de alimentare( am citit pe forum ca cele din Germania ar fi diferite). Statiile gpl au ceva adaptoare pentru alimentare sau ar trebui sa-mi procur eu un astfel de adaptor( stiti daca exista in Bihor o firma care are asa ceva)?


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ai aici http://www.exis.ro/accesori...0Europa-1496.html
  • taxi43edy

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Salutare, am vandut Zamfirica mea, ( batranetea si rugina ) si maine plec spre Nurnberg sa-mi iau alta (sper 2003-2005).
Plec cu Zafira finului pana acolo, am si eu nevoie de informatii despre statii gpl pe acest traseu, multumesc anticipat.
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